Return-Path: Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.1.11-Mandrake-RPM-2.1.11-1mdk) with LMTP; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:13:42 +0100 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9297C61BE5; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:13:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14084-01; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:13:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39EE61BFD; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:13:32 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: ietf-languages@alvestrand.no Delivered-To: ietf-languages@alvestrand.no Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2DE61BED for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:13:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13792-08 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:13:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from pechora.icann.org (pechora.icann.org [192.0.34.35]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3421361BAE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:13:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from montage.altserver.com (montage.altserver.com [63.247.74.122]) by pechora.icann.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0I1CWA30555 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:12:32 -0800 Received: from lns-p19-1-idf-82-251-91-4.adsl.proxad.net ([82.251.91.4] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1Cqhvv-0002Xj-9S; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:13:24 -0800 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050117191649.047931a0@mail.jefsey.com> X-Sender: jefsey+jefsey.com@mail.jefsey.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:12:51 +0100 To: "Jon Hanna" , From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" In-Reply-To: <20050117175527.854E65CE5DE9@postie2.hosting365.ie> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20050117165232.047ec8e0@mail.jefsey.com> <20050117175527.854E65CE5DE9@postie2.hosting365.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3D417088 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - iana.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at alvestrand.no Cc: Subject: RE: language tag structure X-BeenThere: ietf-languages@alvestrand.no X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Language tag discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no Errors-To: ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 18:55 17/01/2005, Jon Hanna wrote: > > needs, the response is "no one will ever need this". >That's not the argument. Sure people may need this. I need to figure out how >to get emulsion paint off a leather coat, but don't expect RFC 3066bis to >help. Dear Jon, as you may have noted I do not discuss the Philips-languages-08.txt Draft. I described the 5 sub-tags tag structure our CRC will adopt unless someone documents that more are needed. >It is perfectly possible to come up with an ontology for mechanisms used to >record text (e.g. handwritten, typed, whatever), we don't need 3066bis to >record every possible datum about a piece of text or we'll end-up with some >Borgesian impossibility. This is not what is discussed. What is discussed is how/if the our stag structure is to be organized to support the Philips-languages-08(09?).txt requirements. My reading of the whole debate is that the information covered by these two sub-tags (which we see necessary in an heterogenous network environment) is of no interest to you in an existing document. So, I do not understand why you comments the style and authority sub-tags you do not want to use. The real possible conflicts I see, and I am surprised no one comments them, are: 1. the IRI name-reg issue. A part from quoting the Gospel in an obscure way, I would wish to get an authorized response. 2. the need of IANA registration of the langtags I think inappropriate unless it is documented as a way to fullfil a specific need. For example the "ietf-language@iana.org" mailing list implications are very bizare. jfc >Regards, >Jon Hanna >Work: >Play: >Chat: > >_______________________________________________ >Ietf-languages mailing list >Ietf-languages@alvestrand.no >http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages _______________________________________________ Ietf-languages mailing list Ietf-languages@alvestrand.no http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages