Return-Path: Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.1.11-Mandrake-RPM-2.1.11-1mdk) with LMTP; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:59:58 +0100 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C7F61BDB for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:59:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12995-09 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:59:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from greenriver.icann.org (greenriver.icann.org [192.0.35.121]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE9861BD6 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:59:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from greenriver.icann.org (greenriver [127.0.0.1]) by greenriver.icann.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0H2xUGT019260; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:59:30 -0800 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by greenriver.icann.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0H2xUfF019259; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:59:30 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: greenriver.icann.org: majordomo set sender to owner-ga@gnso.icann.org using -f Received: from pechora.icann.org (pechora.icann.org [192.0.34.35]) by greenriver.icann.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0H2xUfq019256 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:59:30 -0800 Received: from montage.altserver.com (montage.altserver.com [63.247.74.122]) by pechora.icann.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0H2weA15111 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:58:40 -0800 Received: from lns-p19-4-idf-82-65-255-25.adsl.proxad.net ([82.65.255.25] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1CqN70-00027X-U0; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:59:28 -0800 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050117032632.040baeb0@mail.club-internet.fr> X-Sender: jefsey@mail.club-internet.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:30:01 +0100 To: sotiris@hermesnetwork.com, General Assembly of the DNSO From: "J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" Subject: Re: [ga] potential IDN confusion issue with Greek language domains In-Reply-To: <41EB1DC0.6060801@hermesnetwork.com> References: <41EAB29B.6060603@hermesnetwork.com> <41EB1DC0.6060801@hermesnetwork.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3B427364 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnso.icann.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - club-internet.fr X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Sender: owner-ga@gnso.icann.org Precedence: bulk X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at alvestrand.no Who cares? The mess is to ask people to use Greek.com and not to permit them to use Greek.Greek names. Hower make sure that the HELENIC (whatever the real name) does not apermit registrants to register the two names with a discount. There is no other practical way. NICs try their best, but they are supposed to be dumb neutral registries only. jfc At 03:06 17/01/2005, Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote: >It appears the people at CENTR are aware of the accent issue with Greek >IDNs, see: www.centr.org/docs/2003/06/centr-ga18-davies-idn.pdf > >This brings up the obvious question(s): What is to be done now that the >IDNs are live? Will there be a recall of some kind? What happens to >everyone who already registered Greek IDNs if there is? > >Seems to me, this has all the makings of a really fine mess... > >Sotiris Sotiropoulos > >Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote: > >>This time round, I have noticed what I believe to be a bona fide issue >>with the IDN specs as applied to the Greek language; it has to do with >>accents. It is currently possible to register IDN domains in Greek with >>AND without the applicable accents, such that two separate registrations >>for the same word can exist, albeit one lacks the applicable accent >>marking(s). I believe this can lead to a very real and serious confusion >>issue. >>For example, the addresses ελλάς.com and ελλας.com have been separately >>registered. >>Sincerely, >>Sotiris Sotiropoulos > >-- >This email includes a valid digital signature which positively >distinguishes the sender and serves to ensure that the message has not >been altered since it was sent. For more information on having your >identity validated for use in your own Personal Certificate visit the >THAWTE Web of Trust (WOT): https://www.thawte.com/wot/index.html > >This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not >waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying >of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended >recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please >advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. > > >