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Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 20:19:23 +0100
To: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@jefsey.com>
Subject: Re: Version -06 of the IASA BCP - is this a workable version?
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On 09:10 03/02/2005, Harald Tveit Alvestrand said:
>--On 3. februar 2005 00:06 +0100 "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@jefsey.com> 
>wrote:
>>Yet the request that the following text is added in Part 4 has been
>>objected by you and discussed with others, on the list and off list. The
>>carefull  process of deliberation is not completed, and has not lead to a
>>consensus.
>>
>>This text is: "International: ISOC shall work with its national Chapters,
>>the IAD and IAOC to document how the IETF meetings and the Internet
>>standard process could benefit from the local presence, market knowledge
>>and languages familiarity of these Chapters."
>
>Consensus does not mean unanimity. I have not seen anyone else speak out 
>to support your proposed addition, and have heard people speaking against it.

I would not qualify it this way. Even if we listen to the echo, this makes 
2/1/2. We both know that the reason why is that many are not interested 
because of the unfriendly and uncertain biased situation your position 
leads to. And because we are not in a fighting area.

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/berkeleyan/2005/01/27_acfreedom.shtml

The quick igovpac list (Internet Gov Pacific) was very interesting to that 
end: more innovative constructed technical suggestions in 15 days than in 
one IETF year, by people who shut-up in here.

>Sometimes you're the "rough" in "rough consensus".

:-)
We French we name that a cactus, and a troll a "mouche du coche".
Usually the cactus is right at the end of the day.
jfc