Return-Path: Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.1.11-Mandrake-RPM-2.1.11-1mdk) with LMTP; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 05:55:38 +0100 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1783F61BDD for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 05:55:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21154-02 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 05:55:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from montage.altserver.com (montage.altserver.com [63.247.74.122]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AAF61BA7 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 05:55:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from lns-p19-2-idf-82-251-113-99.adsl.proxad.net ([82.251.113.99] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1CwZ1e-0004b3-Jx; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:55:32 -0800 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050203032411.03ad1bd0@mail.jefsey.com> X-Sender: jefsey+jefsey.com@mail.jefsey.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 05:55:14 +0100 To: EKR From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" Subject: Re: some pending IASA issues Cc: Harald Tveit Alvestrand , ietf@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <86lla6l8wd.fsf@romeo.rtfm.com> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20050129115602.0378ccd0@mail.utel.net> <13E6CD5B306CC5277F2047BB@B50854F0A9192E8EC6CDA126> <6.1.2.0.2.20050203000708.0689eeb0@mail.jefsey.com> <86lla6l8wd.fsf@romeo.rtfm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-5B5B776 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - alvestrand.no X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 02:38 03/02/2005, Eric Rescorla wrote: >"JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" writes: > > The concern is that you do not want to use the ISOC capacity to better > > legally and financially manage/advise the IASA, also that you favor > > the possibility to influence the choice of contractors location > > through the choice of IAOC members. I think there is there a source of > > COI and protests for lack of transparency. > > > > I therefore insist for the above paragraph to be slightly modified in > > using "[The IAB and IESG should chose] people from the various regions > > of the world [with some knowledge of contracts ....]". > >For the record, this is a terrible idea to codify. This is precisely >the sort of policy matter that the IESG and IAB should decide >for themselves. Eric, I make a difference, and this is why I ask the change, between the IAB and IESG where the global technical expertise is of the essence, and the IAOC where field legal, financial and organizational skills are looked for. Also, IAB and IESG people do not sign commercial contracts. jfc PS. Changing IESG and IAB policy would be to change the Internet standard process. This is *not* the intent. However the "international" addition I also request may help the IAD to document the IAB and IESG how the ISOC Chapters support *could* (I do not know, but I do not want to lose the opportunity if it exists) better support that process in some cases, and most probably help the IETF meetings organization. ISOC France has proven its ability to organize international top level gatherings and socializing. We could certainly help. To follow on the Draft-Phillips-languages-08.txt key issues, my organization will set-up a range of Culture/Language oriented meetings. I would certainly be happy to coordinate through the ISOC Chapter and guest a meeting of the ietf-languages@alverstrand.no list members who would happen to be at the Paris meeting.