Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:34:12 +0100 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7620961AF3 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:34:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18144-05 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:34:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421E861AF1 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:34:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DErkN-000CPn-J8 for idn-data@psg.com; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:33:19 +0000 Received: from [63.247.76.194] (helo=montage.altserver.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DErkL-000CPG-Io for idn@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:33:17 +0000 Received: from lns-p19-1-idf-82-251-137-168.adsl.proxad.net ([82.251.137.168] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DErFJ-0003Bs-Bg; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:01:13 -0800 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050325164709.03f3e010@mail.jefsey.com> X-Sender: jefsey+jefsey.com@mail.jefsey.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:01:10 +0100 To: Gervase Markham , idn@ops.ietf.org From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" Subject: Re: [idn] Mac OS X Safari and IDN spoofing In-Reply-To: <42442A07.2030003@mozilla.org> References: <4240917F.30801@mozilla.org> <9271f2a6d20072ae7e9f1cf9e74cce45@seng.cc> <42442A07.2030003@mozilla.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ops.ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Sender: owner-idn@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 16:11 25/03/2005, Gervase Markham wrote: >James Seng wrote: >>i thought the ideas they have was pretty interesting >>choose the scripts you use most often that you like to display normally >>but otherwise, will display in punycode. > >What sort of effect do you think it will have on IDN acceptance and use if >companies using IDN domains know that their domain name will display as >gobbledygook in an unknown percentage of their customer's browsers? They will not if they are "babel names", ie names registered for their punycode display, such as "xn--cocacola.com". I made a list in using Simon Josefsson oline tool and a small funycode program for Adam to test them. What he did. I do not remember the names I gave: I tried a few like xn--adam-costello.com, xn--vint-cerf.ibm, xn--gw-bush.com, etc. Many worked. If I am right the most brillant was xn--ibm.com which called for a single character IDN. The main issue is that if you TM the Unicode name there is nothing to be done. jfc