Return-Path: Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.1.11-Mandrake-RPM-2.1.11-1mdk) with LMTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:48:52 +0100 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF8161BFA for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:48:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21670-02 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:48:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E37261B8B for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:48:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DBIx4-0003jC-Rl; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:47:42 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DBIx3-0003fo-AS for ltru@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:47:41 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA17563 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:47:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from [63.247.76.195] (helo=montage.altserver.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DBJ0t-0006Z7-VN for ltru@ietf.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:51:41 -0500 Received: from lns-p19-19-idf-82-254-246-100.adsl.proxad.net ([82.254.246.100] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DBIwu-00046U-8s; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:47:32 -0800 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050315203041.036b5090@mail.jefsey.com> X-Sender: jefsey+jefsey.com@mail.jefsey.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:47:22 +0100 To: "Addison Phillips" , "Frank Ellermann" , From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" Subject: RE: [Ltru] Re: "Obsolete" region subtags In-Reply-To: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0A9F498B@irvmbxw01.quest.c om> References: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0A9F498B@irvmbxw01.quest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: bb8f917bb6b8da28fc948aeffb74aa17 Cc: X-BeenThere: ltru@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Language Tag Registry Update working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 18:14 15/03/2005, Addison Phillips wrote: >Allowing multiple subtags to mean the same thing, as Frank suggests below, >would be a problem. Many language tag processors that I know of are >implemented based solely on the values of the tags themselves, with no >external knowledge baked into them. The existence of a registry might >change that to some degree, but you'll still have many of what the draft >calls "well-formed" processors for which "GB" is just a token. I question myself on this. The DNS is 22 years old, the mail older. I understand that one wants to be careful at not changing them too much - yet the market will change them if it solved the spam. IDNs are one year and a half old and several consider that one can still change or even kill them. As far as I understand, you refer to applications resulting from RFC 3066, and may be from its predecessor? So they are 3 to 7 years old? They most probably are browsers/aplications which have anyway to be updated to support IDNs (applications needing to check languages are likely to also use IDNs)? We are going to have a lot of changes in the DNS in the coming month to support the local TLDs which are to be a must. The support of the Tables will probably be required at users level, for 3+LD consistency checks,etc. (even if not planned yet). Many other applications would probably want then to use functions using country codes if they were available. Microsoft always said they wanted to watch the market reaction before implementing the IDN support in the OS. This WG could consider user located functions to get and integrate the IANA cc table and updates . It could then use them. Would it not be better to start anew while there is still a "small" base (RFC 3066 is still here for them) rather than to continue for ever with an old system? BTW I personally think the IDN Tables and other TLD infos (such as the lingual aliases of the TLDs) are part of the Locale, jfc _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru