Return-Path: Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.1.11-Mandrake-RPM-2.1.11-1mdk) with LMTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:19:29 +0100 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C47061B96 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:19:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21371-10 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:19:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959E861B89 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:19:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DAdHt-0005CU-3x; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:18:25 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DAdHq-0005CH-Ek for ltru@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:18:22 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA23716 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [63.247.76.195] (helo=montage.altserver.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DAdLK-0005Gh-Js for ltru@ietf.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:21:58 -0500 Received: from lns-p19-19-idf-82-65-139-89.adsl.proxad.net ([82.65.139.89] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DAdHj-00070l-EP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:18:16 -0800 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050314000816.03fd0530@mail.jefsey.com> X-Sender: jefsey+jefsey.com@mail.jefsey.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:17:17 +0100 To: "Addison Phillips" From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" Subject: Re: [Ltru] Working Group submission: LTRU Registry Draft 00 In-Reply-To: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0A924C02@irvmbxw01.quest.c om> References: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0A924C02@irvmbxw01.quest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: 02ec665d00de228c50c93ed6b5e4fc1a Cc: ltru@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ltru@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Language Tag Registry Update working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at alvestrand.no On 21:10 12/03/2005, Addison Phillips said: >Dear Editor, >Please find attached in text format draft-00 of "draft-ietf-ltru-registry". >I understand that this will be processed after IETF-62. Thank you for this document. I have asked guidance to several concerned parties to present a comment synthesis (I give time for responses - or for no-response freeing me). I also asked guidance to some WG-IDN members and other ccTLDs which could be of help towards a ccTLD BP IRT concerning the Unicode updates impact on IDNs. For example a notion which can simplify the IDN support issue, but possibly introduce more complexity at the end of the day for the language tags in general (I do not know), is loosing the relations of IDN Tables - and tables tags - with languages to be in phase with real users demand and ccTLD political trends. As you know, priority today in the IDN area is the homographs/phishing issue. So I do not think I can come with real comment on this draft before end of the week. I suggest that we stick to the charter for the time being (obviously we can propose more) and to the consistency with other RFCs (in particular to IANA ICANN IETF MoU). I would also suggest that we make sure Doug Barton is on this list? His guidance would be useful. The same for Harald as the RFC 3066 author (however he said he will be on vacation until May). The move of the Drafts to an IETF WG was a first good normalization move. The second one should be the support of the ietf-languages@iana.org list by the IANA (host, archives, subscription page, etc.). best regards. jfc ===================================================== For your convenience: Draft: http://www.inter-locale.com/ID/draft-ietf-ltru-registry-00.txt Charter: http://ietf.org/html.charters/ltru-charter.html gmane: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ltru If you were Bcced for information and not familliar with the IETF process: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2026.txt http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2418.txt http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3934.txt http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3669.txt http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3160.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-taobis-02.txt ===================================================== Jon Postel (RFC 1591): "The IANA is not in the business of deciding what is and what is not a country. The selection of the ISO 3166 list as a basis for country code top-level domain names was made with the knowledge that ISO has a procedure for determining which entities should be and should not be on that list." ===================================================== Brian Carpenter (RFC 1958/3.2): "If there are several ways of doing the same thing, choose one. If a previous design, in the Internet context or elsewhere, has successfully solved the same problem, choose the same solution unless there is a good technical reason not to. Duplication of the same protocol functionality should be avoided as far as possible, without of course using this argument to reject improvements." ===================================================== It seems that what works for countries and ISO 3166 since 1978 should apply to languages and to ISO 693. ===================================================== _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru