Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:43:59 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id A087661B05 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:43:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17125-10 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:43:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id B410461AF5 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:43:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DPosV-0007XE-NZ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:42:59 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DPosU-0007X4-0o for ltru@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:42:58 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA24968 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:42:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from montage.altserver.com ([63.247.74.122]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DPp4a-0000Yt-Ci for ltru@ietf.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:55:29 -0400 Received: from lns-p19-2-idf-82-251-121-211.adsl.proxad.net ([82.251.121.211] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DPosR-0004lo-E9; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 14:42:55 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050424231512.04519dd0@mail.jefsey.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:42:52 +0200 To: John Cowan From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: 003 vs. 021 (was: Moving Forward) In-Reply-To: <20050424211052.GH26135@skunk.reutershealth.com> References: <20050423125148.JSJB28887.mta4.adelphia.net@megatron.ietf.org> <025901c548a8$5868dca0$030aa8c0@DEWELL> <20050424164747.GB26135@skunk.reutershealth.com> <6.2.1.2.2.20050424194401.0379b720@mail.jefsey.com> <20050424211052.GH26135@skunk.reutershealth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d Cc: ltru@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ltru@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Language Tag Registry Update working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 23:10 24/04/2005, John Cowan wrote: >JFC (Jefsey) Morfin scripsit: > > > >I'm beginning to wonder just how authoritative that page really is. > > > > Please define "authoritative" if you wish to address this point. > >IOW, does it actually represent the official M.49 list? What I mean is more general. We are in real life. You can only include a name with a definition in a table. Full stop. This kind of discussion much repeated in here and ietf-languages@alverstrand.no is of no use. Because every user for the centuries to come can repeat it. With no other authoritative result than being understood by those who share her understanding - which can change. The job of a Registry designer and then of a Registry manager is not to discuss the meaning of existing names but to try to provide names that will satisfy the users enough for them not to introduce (or use if "barred" by the Registry Manager thinking he has a decision authority) confusing names. Keeping in mind that each time a name is denied by the Registry Manager, this is a loss of "authority" (knowledge/trust) for the Registry, because it will be used outside of it, creating confusion and possible conflicts. Intergovernance is not by rulings but by adherence to consensual propositions. jfc _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru