Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:05:47 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5324161B05 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:05:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12639-02 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:05:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4612961AF5 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:05:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DPetq-0007uV-25; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:03:42 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DPeto-0007uQ-Fi for ltru@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:03:40 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA07413 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from montage.altserver.com ([63.247.74.122]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DPf5p-00041t-1Z for ltru@ietf.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:16:06 -0400 Received: from lns-p19-2-idf-82-251-121-211.adsl.proxad.net ([82.251.121.211] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DPetl-0001OE-DE; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 04:03:37 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050424113019.035121f0@mail.jefsey.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:26:50 +0200 To: Frank Ellermann , ltru@ietf.org From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: BCP 47 In-Reply-To: <426B0C59.3E10@xyzzy.claranet.de> References: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0B209B3C@irvmbxw01.quest.com> <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0B209B3C@irvmbxw01.quest.c om> <6.2.1.2.2.20050423010354.02bc35a0@mail.jefsey.com> <42699FA6.CA7@xyzzy.claranet.de> <6.2.1.2.2.20050423135722.0379e590@mail.jefsey.com> <426B0C59.3E10@xyzzy.claranet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: 9ed51c9d1356100bce94f1ae4ec616a9 Cc: X-BeenThere: ltru@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Language Tag Registry Update working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 05:02 24/04/2005, Frank Ellermann wrote: >BTW, you announced a draft for about mid-April, are you still >working on it, or have you dropped the idea ? So far Bruce's >draft is the only alternative for those who need scripts. Not >counting some unpublished 3066-registrations like the MO-stuff. Dear Frank, the old internet leaks everywhere, suffering from scalability (this is a normal standard growth phase). Working on four matters (CRCs, IPv6 deployment/routing, Multilingual Internet and WSIS) and operating daily registry services shows me the much needed innovative consistency of the propositions to make today. This calls for a lot of parallel thinking, work and agreements ... and time (only 48 hours a day). The current Draft is an acceptable beginning for the second kind of documents planned by the Charter, addressing the specific needs of XML and possibly (undocumented) of CLDR by the people in charge of their specifications. I hoped they understood that from Randy's allusion to the Charters thorny points still to discuss, but I give up hoping: I sent a basic review Addison requested and joked at; I sent a complete review of Draft which was supposed to result in questions by Randy and which was just partly commented once. All this is obviously good material for an appeal, but it would be certainly better to discuss these issues within the WG. The problem is that IETF is not interested in multilingualism and that most of the members of this WG perceive it through the low layer internationalisation issues. The first priority would then be to attract in this WG all those who will block the Draft during the Last Call. I certainly prepare a Draft, but I have a practical work load problem as the program my working groups are engaged in is large. It plans several RFCs for information for Tunis. So, it can only be consistent with three other efforts with long texts for me to write in English. I hope I am finished with them by the end of the week. The detailed scope of the Draft is ready (documented in part in my mail) and some parts completed. But I continue to think that such a Draft would be unnecessary should Randy start a debate on the Charter thorny points, leading to a review of the whole language tags framework. But, IMHO, attracting before the future Last Call opponents would be advisable. jfc _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru