Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:14:50 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C7E61AFB for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:14:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10593-06 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:14:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CD861AD5 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:14:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DMjkp-0004Q5-OR; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:38:19 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DMjkn-0004Pg-2m for ltru@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:38:17 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA07803 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [63.247.76.195] (helo=montage.altserver.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DMjvA-0005Et-CM for ltru@ietf.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:49:00 -0400 Received: from lns-p19-8-idf-82-65-69-216.adsl.proxad.net ([82.65.69.216] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DMjkV-000187-K8; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 02:38:00 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050416111756.04ab9e70@mail.jefsey.com> X-Sender: jefsey+jefsey.com@mail.jefsey.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:31:29 +0200 To: "Mark Davis" , "Peter Constable" , From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposed Text for Moving Forward In-Reply-To: <03df01c54245$85acd400$087d3009@sanjose.ibm.com> References: <03df01c54245$85acd400$087d3009@sanjose.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: cd26b070c2577ac175cd3a6d878c6248 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id FAA07803 Cc: X-BeenThere: ltru@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Language Tag Registry Update working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no As a non English speaker I more or less understand the English of=20 "Suppress_Script" because I know its history. I am not sure an occasional= =20 developper will understand/remember the meaning of it. Unneeded, needless= ,=20 redundant_script would be clearer to me. jfc At 07:25 16/04/2005, Mark Davis wrote:understand >I'm sorry, I really misworded what I wanted to say, so it must have been >very confusing.. In the opening, I meant to say that I don't see the rea= son >for the *Require_Script*. >If you look below, you see that what I propose is: > >...this could be simplified down to one >field, Suppress_Script, and two rules. > >1. Script subtags listed in the 'Suppress_Script' field SHOULD NOT be us= ed >to form language tags unless they add specific information to the langua= ge >tag required by an application. > >2. Script subtags not listed in the 'Suppress_Script' field SHOULD alway= s be >used to form language tags when the script used by the content being >identified matches the script unless there is a specific reason to omit = the >script subtag in the application. > > >So >A. If the Suppress_Script is Latn, then en-Latn becomes en, while en-Cyr= l >stays as is >B. If there is no Suppress_Script (say for zh), then zh-Hant, zh-Hans, >zh-Cyrl, (and everything else) stay as is. > > > >=E2=80=8EMark > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Peter Constable" >To: >Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 19:03 >Subject: RE: [Ltru] Re: Proposed Text for Moving Forward > > > > From: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org [mailto:ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org= ] >On > > Behalf Of Mark Davis > > > > This is a real improvement. But in terms of results, it appears that >there > > is no real difference in guidance in having the Suppress_Script field= , >and > > having nothing. So it is unclear why the 'Suppress_Script' is needed. > >This is the most useful field: it is the one that addresses the concern >voiced by Ira and others: that we don't get users or application >developers going off and thinking that now they should use (say) >en-Latn-GB or that the inclusion of Latn in this case has no particular >concerns associated with it. > > > >Peter Constable > > >_______________________________________________ >Ltru mailing list >Ltru@lists.ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Ltru mailing list >Ltru@lists.ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru