Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:12:48 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56F261BEC for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:12:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05776-04 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:12:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C1061BDA for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:12:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DM7ry-0000P3-KY; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:11:10 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DM7rw-0000Hx-FC for ltru@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:11:08 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA03252 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:10:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [63.247.76.195] (helo=montage.altserver.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DM81k-0000Nm-9V for ltru@ietf.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:21:16 -0400 Received: from if12m5-235.d4.club-internet.fr ([212.195.66.235] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DM7EY-0001W0-Mq; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:30:27 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050414182053.05855c40@mail.jefsey.com> X-Sender: jefsey+jefsey.com@mail.jefsey.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:29:44 +0200 To: "Doug Ewell" , "LTRU Working Group" From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" Subject: Re: Off Topic (was Re: [Ltru] Great Script Debate Part II: Formats...) In-Reply-To: <00d401c54105$37108a80$030aa8c0@DEWELL> References: <20050414081358.QLCL4543.mta4.adelphia.net@megatron.ietf.org> <00d401c54105$37108a80$030aa8c0@DEWELL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: b4a0a5f5992e2a4954405484e7717d8c Cc: X-BeenThere: ltru@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Language Tag Registry Update working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no I must rush and may be out of reach for 2 days. There is no real problem with this. Again, as long as the format for XML is fine and does not claim to be the format for the world and that the five level of multilingualism/vernacular are supported, if the QA and openess warranted by bilingual tables and the registration is opposed rather than accepted, I am OK. You just may want to consider that: - there may be some serious political reluctance to "x": it has been objected with "xn--" as meaning "exclusion" or "xenophobe" or "christian" - this is not a real problem for me, but be prepared to the "-x-" to be forgotten as soon as some one find a way to support it. - this will be all the more true that referent will register. Keep in mind that the more referent register it means they are interested. Then they will probably take over the register itself. In such a case, the RFC formula I propose will be a warranty of stability (there is only one RFC while there may be many reference centers, with different speed of access, added value, etc. jfc At 17:18 14/04/2005, Doug Ewell wrote: >L.Gillam wrote: > > > Jefsey's last few statements made me realise a possible solution for > > him. > > > > He identified a desire to use a tag "jefsey-2005" or similar. > > > > Of course, he can do this with private use extensions. This also seems > > to be an applicable solution for his "nations". > > > > So, if Jefsey tags his content with "en-x-jefsey-2005", the list can > > configure its content-acceptance accordingly. > > > > Whether such a tag would only be accepted if it has been given a name > > in every possible language is another matter. > >I agree with Lee. I've thought for quite some time that Jefsey's need >to tag "referent" and "style" would be best met with private-use >subtags. > >His example of "jefsey-2005" illustrates what he has said many times, >that his "referent" subtag would go down to the level of "individual >variations." Since nobody's ever going to register subtags for tens of >thousands of individual speakers, let alone billions (no hyperbole >here), it seems appropriate and reasonable to use the private-use >mechanism for that. > >And until "style" is defined in somewhat more stable and concrete terms >than what I have seen so far, that might be a good candidate for >private-use subtags as well. > >-Doug Ewell > Fullerton, California > http://users.adelphia.net/~dewell/ > > > >_______________________________________________ >Ltru mailing list >Ltru@lists.ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru