Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:43:39 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA8161B55 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:43:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21122-04 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:43:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id C377B61B49 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:43:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DLCHb-0008EO-Im; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:41:47 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DLCHZ-0008EJ-Pj for ltru@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:41:45 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA28904 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [63.247.76.195] (helo=montage.altserver.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DLCR4-0001xE-9Q for ltru@ietf.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:51:35 -0400 Received: from lns-p19-8-idf-82-249-21-108.adsl.proxad.net ([82.249.21.108] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DLCHW-0003bV-N2 for ltru@ietf.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:41:43 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050412042736.0331a020@mail.jefsey.com> X-Sender: jefsey+jefsey.com@mail.jefsey.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:41:25 +0200 To: "ltru Working Group" From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" Subject: Re: [Ltru] [psg.com #882] registry should copy non-English fields from ISO documents In-Reply-To: <20050412022051.GB25185@skunk.reutershealth.com> References: <011a01c53ee2$4a1a5d60$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> <200504112220.j3BMK84I004532@smtp-los03.proxy.aol.com> <6.1.2.0.2.20050412014332.0309ceb0@mail.jefsey.com> <008801c53f05$6159f940$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> <20050412022051.GB25185@skunk.reutershealth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: 8abaac9e10c826e8252866cbe6766464 Cc: X-BeenThere: ltru@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Language Tag Registry Update working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no On 04:20 12/04/2005, John Cowan said: >Randy Presuhn scripsit: > > Of those who support copying available French names (and transcriptions) > > for the names of languages, would you be willing to support Jefsey's > > provisos? > >No, indeed. Most 639-3 names don't have French versions, and because >standard written French is a vocabulary-controlled language (unlike >standard written English) there is no reasonable prospect of getting >such standard names. Can you please fully document or remove these two statements. jfc PS. Randy, I note you use my comment to Debbie's as a basis for your gallop but do not quote her. I agree with Peter that ISO 639-3 maintainers' position should prevail (after througouht considerations of the situation and of ISO 639-1-2-3-4-6 and the serious crossverification of the ISO 639-3 English list the ISO 639-3 French list work is structurally intended for). I am not sure our Charter includes an opposition to ISO 639 practices. Peter, my position has not changed since August. Until now I believe it has helped you. I am surprised you consider the dual language ISO QA of low interest. BTW I would have no problem in adopting autonyms as sole reference names - but I feel a equivalent amount of work would be necessary. _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru