Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:13:40 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0FD61B49 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:13:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11585-05 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:13:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5B661AF1 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:13:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DL75j-0000zq-PC; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:09:11 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DL75h-0000zD-Ti for ltru@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:09:09 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA06320 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:09:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [63.247.76.195] (helo=montage.altserver.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DL7FA-0001xS-DI for ltru@ietf.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:18:56 -0400 Received: from lns-p19-8-idf-82-249-21-108.adsl.proxad.net ([82.249.21.108] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DL75f-0001up-I5 for ltru@ietf.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:09:09 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050411220844.04920eb0@mail.jefsey.com> X-Sender: jefsey+jefsey.com@mail.jefsey.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:25:44 +0200 To: ltru@ietf.org From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: Comment: use VU for Vanuatu (was: remove regionsubtag 200) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: 69a74e02bbee44ab4f8eafdbcedd94a1 Cc: X-BeenThere: ltru@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Language Tag Registry Update working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 21:51 11/04/2005, JFC (Jefsey) Morfin wrote: >At 21:01 11/04/2005, Randy Presuhn wrote: >> > You document that the draft does not match the charter. I noted that, and >> > also the conflict in the charter which calls for an independence from the >> > ISO evolutions and the possibility to identify the subtags in the tag. >> IMHO >> > this calls for a request of guidance to the IESG if the debate on the >> > charter (we still need to have, as Randy underlined it) does not deliver a >> > solution. >> > jfc >> >>The charter us not up for debate. >> >>Jfc: Bogus claims that a co-chair supports a particular position >>are not a good way to win friends or favorably influence people. Hi! Randy, I am sorry, but I do not really see the interest of this. The main purpose of a WG is neither to win friends nor to favorably influence people. It is to deliver a document which makes sense in addressing a charter, and users needs my job in life is to represent and address for 27 years. Subjective aspects may be of interest to help the thinking process. They can also hamper it. This being said, IRT "bogus", I quote: "(co-chair hat ON) Consider it motivation to get these issues resolved. Stream-of-consciousness is nice for brainstorming sessions, but we have a bunch of specific issues to resolve, as well as a couple of thorny questions from the charter that haven't seen much discussion. The tickets will allow us to reach closure quickly on the easy stuff, and I hope keep the heavy discussion threads on track." I long to see now these thorny questions being seriously discussed. jfc _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru