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At 22:28 10/04/2005, Doug Ewell wrote:
>JFC (Jefsey) Morfin <jefsey at jefsey dot com> wrote:
>
> > On 19:12 10/04/2005, Doug Ewell said:
> > ... The draft seeks to remove or reduce that
> > >instability by introducing a stable layer on top of it...
> >
> > I would be very interested in your description of this layer. The
> > draft proposes a tag layer where the tag = "ISO 639"+"ISO 15924"+"ISO
> > 3166". I fail to understand how tag is independent from a change in
> > one of the ISO subtags.
>
>This is one of the fundamental features of the draft, and has been
>discussed at great length.
>
>The subtags are BASED ON code elements in ISO standards, but may deviate
>from them to preserve stability when the ISO code elements are changed,
>and especially so when they are reused.

Dear Doug,
This means (I obviously assume big changes which are claimed never to 
happen :-) that nothing opposes that fra-Cyrl-US would still mean French 
writen in Cyrilic as spoken in the USA - while fra may have changed in that 
far future to Franglish, Cyrl to Cypriot revision of Latin and US to United 
States of Australia.

- this is IETF not ISO and no position by ISO can be taken for granted: we 
have no control.
- the draft precisely wants a solution which rules out any risk of that kind
- this is indeed a fundamental features of the Draft, and that it has been 
discussed at great length. This does not change anything to it. This WG is 
to discuss Drafts only to address its Charter.

You document that the draft does not match the charter. I noted that, and 
also the conflict in the charter which calls for an independence from the 
ISO evolutions and the possibility to identify the subtags in the tag. IMHO 
this calls for a request of guidance to the IESG if the debate on the 
charter (we still need to have, as Randy underlined it) does not deliver a 
solution.
jfc 


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