Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 04:09:58 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CA661B6B for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 04:09:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25237-09 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 04:09:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F83461AFB for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 04:09:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DKoMF-0007SE-I1; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:08:59 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DKoMB-0007Rz-PU for ltru@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:08:56 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA11455 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [63.247.76.195] (helo=montage.altserver.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DKoVS-00076p-Ga for ltru@ietf.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:18:32 -0400 Received: from lns-p19-1-idf-82-251-94-206.adsl.proxad.net ([82.251.94.206] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DKoM8-0001cL-4a; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:08:52 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050411013129.03b5d8a0@mail.jefsey.com> X-Sender: jefsey+jefsey.com@mail.jefsey.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 01:44:22 +0200 To: Frank Ellermann From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: seeking resolution of the Great Script Debate In-Reply-To: <42598B51.3AD0@xyzzy.claranet.de> References: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0AFA3A9C@irvmbxw01.quest.com> <42595842.175B@xyzzy.claranet.de> <6.1.2.0.2.20050410193918.0d319910@mail.jefsey.com> <42598B51.3AD0@xyzzy.claranet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: 9ed51c9d1356100bce94f1ae4ec616a9 Cc: ltru@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ltru@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Language Tag Registry Update working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no Dear Frank, I understand that the X(HT)ML applications have debate enough on the matter to permit this WG to feel free about them, as long as it fullfils its Charter assigned role to permit a consistent solution. On 22:23 10/04/2005, Frank Ellermann said: > > we are here to specify network protocol related issues >Actually we are here to specify a new language tag registry. If we can make the proposed language tag registry useful outside of the Internet standard process, all the best. But this is the IETF and we are concerned by protocols, procedures and best common practices. >Debbie said, that she would like another dimension "charset" >in these crazy tags, but now we're looking at solutions without >script (less dimensions). Nothing promises to be the "best for >all" solution. That forces us to find the least harmful exit. I do not think we are boud to a least harmful exit. Experiences in that area like IPv6, IDNA, etc. did not result into something really appealing. I think we can certainly find a good, stable and innovative for all solution. >Please drop the idea to abuse DNS to get combined language tag >registry entries, at least not in a form languages * scripts * >regions * variants, that's horrible. May be could you comment that more in detail? In the way you understand it. Thank you. I do not think my idea is to abuse DNS. I documented our need. I documented our solution. I did not document yet our information dissemination strategy. I need to understand first what Addison has to explain. I suppose we also need more involvement in this WG. As Addison explained it well, if you do not involve/hurt the people who may oppose you, you will upset them and you will never get their support. jfc _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru