Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 16:58:57 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA04361B80 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:58:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00923-10 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:58:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECC461AFD for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:58:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DpSOY-0001m8-J3; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:58:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DpSOS-0001lc-R0 for ltru@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:58:01 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA26952 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:57:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from montage.altserver.com ([63.247.74.122]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DpSp2-00019Q-Uu for ltru@ietf.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:25:26 -0400 Received: from ver78-2-82-241-91-24.fbx.proxad.net ([82.241.91.24] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DpSON-0005yJ-Aj; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 07:57:51 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050704101614.04a3e0c0@mail.afrac.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:29:22 +0200 To: "Debbie Garside" From: r&d afrac Subject: RE: [Ltru] Referencing the Scheme within the Tag In-Reply-To: <200507040647.j646l9iT015837@smtp-los01.proxy.aol.com> References: <6.2.1.2.2.20050704022458.05a300e0@mail.afrac.org> <200507040647.j646l9iT015837@smtp-los01.proxy.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - afrac.org X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 Cc: ltru@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ltru@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Language Tag Registry Update working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 08:47 04/07/2005, Debbie Garside wrote: >Hi Jefsey >I do not wish to add more information into the tag. I just want to >reference the scheme. The fact that the scheme MAY be updated in the future >to include additional information is part of the reason for requiring the >reference. Debbie, RFC 3066 is used in a lot of places and the Draft "narrowing" changes its nature. It is likely that this new nature will not always be accepted, all the more in the new IANA context. This means that we will have several coexisting schemes as both the narrowing and the needs will increase. The result will probably be complex semantic (look at the added complexity by this fist narrowing level, after 18 versions: even the target is to make RFC 3066 ter as simple as they wanted RFC 3066 bis to be). There will be at least three coexisting schemes. This is why it seems much more promising to work on a private generalised x-tags open space along with an ISO 11179 approach, where all this issues will have to be addressed in the context of the present state of the art, without having to rebuild the wheel. The only fear I have is that ISO 11179 is complex and may very well be another X.500 story. This is why I wish to keep the multilingualism and the networking aspects under other fora (including IETF) control. So if an Internet vision had to emerge (like for LDAP) we could make it more easily. Designing it in the context of this WG could be possible (it was my request to ADs when I called for a WG-TAGS) but would call for far more people to assemble. I called for that on the IETF main list, but the chair opposed we had some of them on the list (but never heard about). jfc _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru