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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:01:26 +0200
To: Misha Wolf <Misha.Wolf@reuters.com>,
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Subject: RE: [Ltru] Compatibility with existing use (LDAP)
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Misha,
I think you should be clearer. With real ISO 3166 codes.
What you really discuss is for an LDAP meta-database on Chinese speaking 
web sites to enter:
zh-Hant-tw or zh-tw-Hant
zh-Hant-cn or zn-cn-Hant
zh-Hant-sg or zn-sh-Hant
etc... ?
And CN people to querry that database??
jfc


At 23:05 09/04/2005, Misha Wolf wrote:
>Ira McDonald wrote:
>
> > If script tags SHOULD be rare in use, then it's no burden for
> > them to occupy the third position, rather than the second.
>
>I cannot imagine what mental model you have of *why* a
>script or a country should be included in a language tag.
>
>Consider "zh".  And consider the *very* large number of
>people wanting to tag their text as, or look for text in,
>either Traditional or Simplified Chinese.  Are you serious
>in arguing that they should have to inject a country code
>between "zh" and the "Hant" or "Hans"?
>
>Let's see: The person requesting a resource will have to
>specify a list of languages, of the form zh-C1-Hant,
>zh-C2-Hant, zh-C3-Hant, in order to obtain all resources in
>Traditional Chinese.
>
>And what do you expect the person tagging a resource to do?
>In general, they don't have the possibility of using multiple
>tags (zh-C1-Hant, zh-C2-Hant, zh-C3-Hant) to describe their
>resource.  So what should they do?  If they choose just one,
>eg zh-C2-Hant, then requestors specifying either zh-C1-Hant
>or zh-C3-Hant will not get the resource.
>
>I feel that those who advocate the ll-CC-Scipt approach are
>simply sticking their heads in the sand and refusing to
>engage with reality.
>
> > Semi-OT - the inclusion of script tags in language tags breaks
> > utterly the utility of presenting language choices to users in
> > GUIs as country-flag icons - the script differences would be
> > invisible.
>
>I can't imagine how you can seek to portray something so
>daft as being a reasonable practice.
>
>Misha
>
>
>
>
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