Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:50:11 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F9161B49 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:50:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26374-08 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:50:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from greenriver.icann.org (greenriver.icann.org [192.0.35.121]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45FA61B48 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:50:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from greenriver.icann.org (greenriver [127.0.0.1]) by greenriver.icann.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39GmdjU019530; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:48:39 -0700 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by greenriver.icann.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j39GmdPP019529; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:48:39 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: greenriver.icann.org: majordomo set sender to owner-ga@gnso.icann.org using -f Received: from pechora.icann.org (pechora.icann.org [192.0.34.35]) by greenriver.icann.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39GmcWe019526 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:48:38 -0700 Received: from montage.altserver.com (montage.altserver.com [63.247.76.195] (may be forged)) by pechora.icann.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j39GjiW32213 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:45:44 -0700 Received: from lns-p19-8-idf-82-249-30-81.adsl.proxad.net ([82.249.30.81] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DKJ8O-0008Bj-JG for ga@gnso.icann.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 09:48:37 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050409150120.03ffde40@mail.club-internet.fr> X-Sender: jefsey@mail.club-internet.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:29:10 +0200 To: ga@gnso.icann.org From: "J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" Subject: Re: [ga] On the Day of the Pope's Funeral... In-Reply-To: <8C70AA35727A66A-F38-5B6A@mblk-r39.sysops.aol.com> References: <20050408212001.78442.qmail@web52904.mail.yahoo.com> <8C70AA35727A66A-F38-5B6A@mblk-r39.sysops.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnso.icann.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - club-internet.fr X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Sender: owner-ga@gnso.icann.org Precedence: bulk X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no The reference to JPII is probably inadequate after having made this governance list a quasi exclusive merchant affair. But the emotional aspect is obviously sustained by the Catholic Church system (CCS) which is able to generate such Giants, for the largest human community, over the longest period of time, when compared to other human institutions. This then makes CCS of interest when discussing another global system as the DNS, what is the purpose of this list. What is humanly the most interesting aspect of these last CCS 40 years is its networking integration. The CCS is hierarchical as is the DNS and shares a similar hierarchy: Pope/Bishops/Laymen - Root/TLD/Registrant. The interesting aspect is that up to now Bishops were "ccTLDs" related to a territory, or sTLD (Masters of Congregations) related to a strictly identified community like .museum or .aero. The novelty is they can now be personal, like "new.Net?". Only one application so far, but which works well. Another things is the reform of the CCS Governance, the collegial management, the involvement of laymen and laywomen (@large). May be some secret for attractiveness for ICANN. I never saw thousands crowding in MdR as millions did in Rome or other places. Another interesting aspect is that the CCS does not claim to be exclusive (while ICANN does). To the contrary the CCS wants to acknowledge the separate authority of States: there is no competition/cooperation between CCS and States, but separation. And a dialog with other religious systems. May be a good example for the Internet duration, stability and development when considering UN and ICANN, ITU, MINC, etc.? All what users, business and States expect from the Internet intergovernance is it makes the Internet properly work in stability. For 20 centuries, the CCS delivers. If you believe in God you may think this is by the operation of the Holy Ghost. But if you do not believe in God or are no-Christian, this is all the more interesting, because the secret must be somewhere in the bylaws. jfc