Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 06:12:11 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AF161AFF for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 06:12:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25613-04 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 06:12:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE7061AF1 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 06:12:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DJ1os-0001U0-Vw; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 00:07:10 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DJ1or-0001Tv-PV for ltru@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 00:07:09 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA20548 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:07:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [63.247.76.195] (helo=montage.altserver.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DJ1x8-00043J-3l for ltru@ietf.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 00:15:43 -0400 Received: from lns-p19-8-idf-82-249-11-10.adsl.proxad.net ([82.249.11.10] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DJ1oo-0000ut-RC; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:07:07 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050406055654.03fbe4c0@mail.jefsey.com> X-Sender: jefsey+jefsey.com@mail.jefsey.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 06:06:55 +0200 To: "Randy Presuhn" , From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: Language transformation In-Reply-To: <006f01c53a5b$dc63f360$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> References: <20050331144959.66075.qmail@web42004.mail.yahoo.com> <091b01c53614$55a3c850$857e3009@sanjose.ibm.com> <6.1.2.0.2.20050331191828.0ca22ad0@mail.jefsey.com> <006f01c53a5b$dc63f360$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: 9182cfff02fae4f1b6e9349e01d62f32 Cc: X-BeenThere: ltru@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Language Tag Registry Update working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 05:51 06/04/2005, Randy Presuhn wrote: >This kind of remark obviously make me react. Whose plan: IETF, IESG, IAB? > >Obviously not, since CLDR is a Unicode project. >http://www.unicode.org/cldr/ > > > 1. this CLDR plan should be documented in the Draft as per Charter. At > > least to explain why it is not supported now. >... > >There is no such requirement in the charter. The charter mentions CLDR as >one of the users of RFC 3066. I dont think this is correct. The CLDR is not documented by any RFC. This is a copyrighted private project. There are other projects with comparable aims and different needs. The needs of the CLDR are parts of the needs calling a the BPC 047 review. In not quoting CLDR the current draft implies that the CLDR needs are satisfied what puts it ad advantage over other projects or projects studies the needs of which are not satisfied. I fully understand that CLDR IPRs should be respected, the same as other projects. But the Internet standard process calls for protected solutions to be considered after open ones. jfc _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru