Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 01:41:33 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C4461AFB for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 01:41:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29758-09 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 01:41:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD87661AF1 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 01:41:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DIbAh-0000FG-2Z; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:39:55 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DIbAe-0000FB-Vs for ietf@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:39:53 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA26048 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [63.247.76.195] (helo=montage.altserver.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DIbIh-0006Vo-Ap for ietf@ietf.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:48:11 -0400 Received: from if12m4-235.d2.club-internet.fr ([212.195.66.235] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DIbAT-0007n0-7m; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:39:41 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050405012420.0372ec50@mail.jefsey.com> X-Sender: jefsey+jefsey.com@mail.jefsey.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 01:31:28 +0200 To: ietf@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" In-Reply-To: <1394590973.20050405005037@atkielski.com> References: <1112379068.9762.4139.camel@unknown.hamachi.org> <1564618943.20050402050620@atkielski.com> <20050404081108.GA714@nic.fr> <1394590973.20050405005037@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: 79899194edc4f33a41f49410777972f8 Subject: Re: french crypto regulations relating to personal encryption usage by visitors? X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF-Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: ietf-bounces@ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 00:50 05/04/2005, Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: >Stephane Bortzmeyer writes: > > > It seems they have never been enforced at all. > >The powers that be choose various laws to persecute those whom they seek >to bring down; presumably no recent target has been in a situation such >that prosecution on the basis of crypto regulations was the easiest way >to silence or neutralize him. > > > Practically speaking, I agree we whould ignore the problem. > >I agree, keeping in mind, of course, that there is always a risk as long >as the laws remain on the books. Of course, that's the whole idea. Dont worry, we just have it in the books to retaliate when USA blocks Roquefort, Bordeaux, Renault, Alcatel or Airbus sales. In August politics on both sides should be on vacations. jfc _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf