Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:54:27 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9938E61B87 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:54:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03129-09 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:54:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from unicode.org (unicode.org [69.13.187.164]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A2F61AF1 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:54:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sarasvati.unicode.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unicode.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LFqEN0007056; Sat, 21 May 2005 10:52:14 -0500 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list unicode); Sat, 21 May 2005 10:52:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from montage.altserver.com (montage.altserver.com [63.247.74.122]) by unicode.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LBVsGx012555 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 06:31:57 -0500 Received: from lns-p19-8-idf-82-249-28-226.adsl.proxad.net ([82.249.28.226] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DZSCt-0005Fa-6D; Sat, 21 May 2005 04:31:51 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050521122530.04608560@mail.jefsey.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 12:32:39 +0200 To: Michael Everson , Unicode From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" Subject: Re: ASCII and Unicode lifespan In-Reply-To: References: <052020051253.29337.428DDDE1000152030000729921602807419C9C0E059C0A030E06@a tt.net> <428DE3C3.9080702@qaya.org> <582014f6050520074658b045ae@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - unicode.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-archive-position: 20145 X-Approved-By: root@unicode.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: unicode-bounce@unicode.org Errors-To: unicode-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: jefsey@jefsey.com Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: unicode X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 09:55 21/05/2005, Michael Everson wrote: >At 09:24 -0600 2005-05-20, John H. Jenkins wrote: > >>BTW, I think where we're running aground is on the use of the term >>"fantasy script." I'd define that as a writing system developed >>initially (if not primarily) for use in a fictional universe. > >Yes, but what good is this term? I would suggest to use the terms "natural/artificial" scripts, to stay homogeneous with current ISO proposition on languages. However this rises the question I raise about "normé" scripts: when the idea to convey is additional characteristic of the script (like the example I gave: Latn for French but without eccentuated upper cases) would it be still the same natural or articial, or qualified as "normé" (in using the best English word I look for), or a variant? jfc