Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:28:04 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3DF61B68 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:28:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09610-02 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:28:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF3461AFD for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:27:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dp3Tc-000269-4e; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 08:21:36 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dp3TZ-000261-Jd; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 08:21:33 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA18210; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 08:21:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from montage.altserver.com ([63.247.74.122]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Dp3tt-00044O-KP; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 08:48:48 -0400 Received: from ver78-2-82-241-91-24.fbx.proxad.net ([82.241.91.24] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1Dp3TQ-0003Dg-Rs; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 05:21:25 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050703142042.047d85b0@mail.jefsey.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:21:20 +0200 To: ietf@ietf.org, ltru@ietf.org From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 Cc: Subject: NTIA Statement of Principles X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF-Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: ietf-bounces@ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no I apologise: I expected so much the return of the US policy to a common sense logic of national interests at the world digital ecosystem level that I did not realised, with the W.E., some has not been informed yet. Here is the link to the statement of Mr. Gallagher: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/USDNSprinciples_06302005.htm From two mails I received, I realise that this may be a shock to some, discovering there an opposition with the "IETF core values", by the main expected funder of Internet R&D (cf. RFC 3869). It is only a direct consequence of the "end to end" principle: States have responsibilities to their own ends, and to exercise them, in such an architecture, they must also control or really trust the other end. The USA only take into consideration the current IETF architecture. They have identified this a while ago (gateway protocols): http://whitehouse.gov/pcipb. Up to us to provide a solution and to reduce the risks of technical balkanisation. jfc _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf