Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:53:57 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192B261B53 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:53:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08158-02 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:53:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from unicode.org (unicode.org [69.13.187.164]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7146361AF1 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:53:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sarasvati.unicode.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unicode.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B0n6GG029022; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:49:06 -0500 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list unicode); Tue, 10 May 2005 19:49:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from montage.altserver.com (montage.altserver.com [63.247.74.122]) by unicode.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B0n1x6028345 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:49:06 -0500 Received: from lns-p19-4-idf-82-65-244-40.adsl.proxad.net ([82.65.244.40] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DVfPG-00022d-8A; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:48:58 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050511010011.045cae70@mail.jefsey.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 02:48:53 +0200 To: Hans Aberg From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" Subject: Re: Full Unicode Computer Keyboard Cc: Unicode List In-Reply-To: References: <1115701784.4280421850fff@webmail.kabissa.org> <6.2.1.2.2.20050510150539.056f5e60@mail.jefsey.com> <6.2.1.2.2.20050510210940.037c74a0@mail.jefsey.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - unicode.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-archive-position: 19853 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: unicode-bounce@unicode.org Errors-To: unicode-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: jefsey@jefsey.com Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: unicode X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 00:08 11/05/2005, Hans Aberg wrote: >What I mean is that it might not healthy expecting te computer keyboard >input to be able to supply the needed context in each key. It might be >faster to enter French without accents, letting the computer software >figuring them out, while retaining the ability to enter them in special >case by more complicated key combinations. OK. But this is not what I am thinking of. I am thinking about industrial applications and legal obligation to support the users langages of the concerned area. I took the example of French not being fully supported by keyboards, only to document the difficulty Donald might face with languages of a region of Africa. Innovation is pushed by sales necessity. If pemit to sell is granted only if matching the demands of the users of reasonable size market, innovation will come. Donald's suggestion on led based keyboard is a good one. This calls for two efforts. The key technology and the key content tables. To call for the industrial key technology, R&D teams must feel secure charsets have been established and documented (to define the number of keys for example). The same for the law makers. Today, we can certainly start working/testing about charsets in using touch screens as you describe it. There are enough industrial and security issues involved to justify R&D and prototypes if there is a clear doctrine. In rough and secure, or vital environments the touch screen issue you desribe are no problem. It is here vital there is no possible hacking and errors. Very limited charsets are of the essence: telephone numbers, upper cases, etc. For example I need a table of all the numbers (0-9) in every script for directly entering IP addresses and converting them and only them. Such a table should exist in the 102 scripts? jfc