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Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 02:11:55 +0200
To: Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU>
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On 19:22 05/05/2005, Joe Touch said:
> > The set of people disagreeing with ADs include both technically astute 
> people
> > and egocentric fools.
>
>Ditto for the ADs themselves.

Has this a real importance? The control is by IETF as a whole, _if_ rough 
consensus is the rule. What is expected from ADs is to make sure that what 
is proposed meets a rough consensus. This could possibly include commenting 
their concerns before the Last Call if they feel it necessary. This may 
include their advise. They should however _never_ consider anything else 
than consensus. If they have other concerns they should join the WG.

Technically astute people and egocentric fools are usually both out of 
consensus.

The only thing expected from IETF as a whole is a permanent consensus never 
to prevent technically astute fools' solutions from developing outside of 
the IETF until they may be understood and possibly accepted by its members 
as part of their consensus. This is why, the IANA registry and Best New 
Practice question is so important.

May be a solution would be to consider an Internet Innovation Task Force to 
serve as an astute fool's test bed. The rule there would not be consensus 
but the most astute solution, by participant votes. If you consider Source 
Forge, it works de facto in this way.
jfc



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