Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:01:06 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADF761B64 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:01:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30210-04 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:01:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CCA61AF3 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:01:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dl2yY-0007Ha-5D; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:00:58 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dl2yW-0007EZ-Ej for ltru@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:00:57 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA24505 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from montage.altserver.com ([63.247.74.122]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Dl3Mc-0002yo-Ae for ltru@ietf.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:25:51 -0400 Received: from ver78-2-82-241-91-24.fbx.proxad.net ([82.241.91.24] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1Dl2yK-0004EL-Vw; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 04:00:45 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050619182551.057729a0@mail.afrac.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:00:33 +0200 To: mentors@dot-root.com From: r&d afrac In-Reply-To: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0BD55DDE@irvmbxw01.quest.c om> References: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0BD55DDE@irvmbxw01.quest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - afrac.org X-Scan-Signature: e8a67952aa972b528dd04570d58ad8fe Cc: langtags@afrac.org, ltru@ietf.org Subject: [Ltru] QED X-BeenThere: ltru@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Language Tag Registry Update working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 17:34 19/06/2005, Addison Phillips wrote: >I'm not feeding the trolls, no matter what they choose to call themselves. Dear Dot-Rooters, I told you the way you would be accepted ... QED. Further to the technical concertation meeting you invited me on Monday, I wish to repeat: 1. thank you for assuming my relay for a few weeks and even participating. 2. I agree with your responsible attitude towards Addison. An authors' trolling does affect his documents. 3. AFRAC has no objection so far to the WG-ltru Chairs. They may play wisely due to circumstances and authors (see above). I also confirm that: - AFRAC will present a Draft if the debate over the Charter is not carried on, or if the results stay negative for Internet users. - this Draft will be introduced through the WG-ltru if possible. - http://rfc3066.org has been activated. It is a site for all. The AFRAC positions I documented: - IETF/AFRAC/INTLNET are involved in networking, not in lingustic/terminology. A language is a relation protocol within a space of exchanges. A langtag is a possible code for an SoE. We need to be consistant with ISO 11179 as an SoE can correlate with any standard. - RFC 3066's simplicity is to be preserved and increased. Current Draft's is "unreadable" (we have to propose a langtag ... :-)). - this way all the documents, works and RFCs which refer to RFC 3066/BC 47 will be respected. - if it does not go through we will publish a Draft/TNS on x-tags (Mr. Charles: we will warn every developper to support long private subtags). - every solution is to be ISO 11179, ISO 639-1/2/3/4/5/6 and ISO 3166-1/2 conformant.. - it will conform to ISO 15924 as per the directions given by ISO 639-4 - E.164, X.121, N.49 and INTLFILE will be supported too. - we will support all the experimentation charters you presented. However we need you to proceed by the book: please document the status of your generic NIC project - we need to address the externet registry first. Gositer 0.3 should be ready as far as I am concerned (the current AFRAC site is built with it). - we expect to port the INTLFILE to five hexa codes by mid-August. I still wait for the Chinese root elements from MINC. - we disapprove the idea of setting-up an ietf-languages@rfc3066.org mailing list except if this is an experimental list, within the framework of an rfc3066.org Draft. A specialised face to face meeting is called on Tuesday September 6 (or 13th?) in Versailles over the RFC 3066 drafts, the x-tags format, their IPv6 access grids, the metalang metamodel, the report on the dot-root testing the Varsaw meeting. If you have other topics to rise, please advise Intlnet secretariat. Members of the WG-ltru will be welcome if. I am not sure I am in Paris at the time of the IETF meeting and I doubt AFRAC will want to spend $ 500 for it. I suppose I will attend one or two Guest Events. We could propose a WG-ltru F2F meeting as a diner in Paris or Versailles if some are interested (and here in first part of August?) Pascal: we could do something in Luxembourg after the ccTLD Meeting? jfc _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru