Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:23:23 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC7561B66 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:23:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16370-10 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:23:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id A715161B64 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:23:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DiOSH-0004r8-Ew; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:20:41 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DiOS9-0004qq-Tx for ietf@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:20:34 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA00458 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:20:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from montage.altserver.com ([63.247.74.122]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DiOoi-0007GY-V3 for ietf@ietf.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:43:56 -0400 Received: from ver78-2-82-241-91-24.fbx.proxad.net ([82.241.91.24] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DiORt-0003z0-4l for ietf@ietf.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:20:17 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050615044050.04811df0@mail.jefsey.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 04:46:00 +0200 To: ietf@ietf.org From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" In-Reply-To: <73A451F3DBF181EC61562189@dialup-4.233.197.44.Dial1.Manches ter1.Level3.net> References: <681602668BF792970A3833B2@scan.jck.com> <42AD5445.4060105@zurich.ibm.com> <8EB5D2EF213AA7B40FFE72F4@dialup-4.233.197.69.Dial1.Manchester1.Le vel3.net> <42AE9AD9.8080508@zurich.ibm.com> <73A451F3DBF181EC61562189@dialup-4.233.197.44.Dial1.Manchester1.Level3.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: 79899194edc4f33a41f49410777972f8 Subject: Re: Appeal of decision to standardize "Mapping Between the Multimedia Messaging Service (MMS) and Internet Mail" X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF-Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: ietf-bounces@ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no On 16:07 14/06/2005, John C Klensin said: >>John, I don't see any text in RFC 2026 that gives an appeal >>suspensive effect. However, as a matter of common sense, I >>have asked the Secretariat to request the RFC Editor to >>suspend RFC publication. I support this. It creates a sensible jurisprudence. The fear of DoS is legitimate, but also of an affinity group forcing an RFC in the hope that immediate decisions taken make the appeal moot. This is in particular the case if the RFC documents and feeds a IANA registry. This is precisely a thing were arbitrary decisions should never be allowed, since it is contentious. It should be mechanical one way or another. The way is now set. jfc _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf