Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 20:56:10 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510C561AFB for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 20:56:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08047-07 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 20:56:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from montage.altserver.com (montage.altserver.com [63.247.74.122]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577B461AF5 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 20:56:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from i01m-124-26.d4.club-internet.fr ([62.35.167.26] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1Dnhj9-0006fM-Uj; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:56:04 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050629185506.04708d60@mail.jefsey.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 20:55:50 +0200 To: Harald Tveit Alvestrand , John C Klensin , Randy Presuhn , ietf@ietf.org From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" Subject: Status in LTRU In-Reply-To: <5C4950A6DB066AA7B203C206@B50854F0A9192E8EC6CDA126> References: <200506271728.j5RHSOK4010945@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <22563.1119937030@munnari.OZ.AU> <5F1B6D95C0DBE599ACBA1A9F@scan.jck.com> <1452A05293A1AAB40A2E4A62@gloppen.hjemme.alvestrand.no> <6.2.1.2.2.20050628153555.03eb3eb0@mail.jefsey.com> <011a01c57c1f$5224c8e0$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> <6.2.1.2.2.20050629004548.04950a60@mail.jefsey.com> <002501c57c61$44d7ea40$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> <11492D65F8A99335DD784FE9@scan.jck.com> <5C4950A6DB066AA7B203C206@B50854F0A9192E8EC6CDA126> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - alvestrand.no X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 15:18 29/06/2005, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: >But I'm confident enough about my reading of the mail in my mailbox to say >that the chair is right in saying that ISO 11179 conformance was >considered by the WG (because Jefsey proposed it), and was rejected by the >WG as irrelevant. >Note: Jefsey's suspension on the ietf-languages list runs until July 15. >After that, I have to modify my killfile so that I see mail he sends to >that list. Until then, I see no reason why I should look at mail from him >at all. Thank you for at last showing publicly and with authority that ad-hominems are the answer given to the "dumb" idea that, WG-ltru and ISO dealing with the same topic (ISO Tables registries), mutual innovative considerations (and not only political lobbying) could help both. We, and all the people involved, know this cannot be otherwise and may mean a loss of commercial dominance over a significant part of the Internet. We both think competition and free softwares foster better quality and innovation. And cultural empowerment is the key to a common and sustainable development. So, why? jfc