Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 01:43:12 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD59532008A for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 01:43:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11037-04 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 01:43:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83335320084 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 01:43:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E7iMd-0007WS-BD; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:39:31 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E7iMZ-0007WF-Ra for ietf@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:39:28 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA19865 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:39:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from montage.altserver.com ([63.247.74.122]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E7iMl-0001qA-Uh for ietf@ietf.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:39:41 -0400 Received: from ver78-2-82-241-91-24.fbx.proxad.net ([82.241.91.24] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1E7iMJ-0001lm-7j; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:39:11 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.2.20050824005904.048a35f0@mail.jefsey.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.3.4 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 01:11:02 +0200 To: Bill Sommerfeld , Stephane Bortzmeyer From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" In-Reply-To: <1124832923.2184.49.camel@thunk> References: <430A56B0.7207@xyzzy.claranet.de> <20050823153847.GA24719@nic.fr> <1124832923.2184.49.camel@thunk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 Cc: Frank Ellermann , rfci-discuss@lists.megacity.org, ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: New attempt to kill "whois" X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF-Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: ietf-bounces@ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 23:35 23/08/2005, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: >On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 11:38, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > Nobody suggested to kill the whois protocol, just the badly written > > and obsolete RFCs which were requiring violations of various european > > laws regarding privacy. Neither ICANN or IETF should specify privacy > > policy for a ccTLD. > >I believe Frank's concern is that he wants the ability to refuse >services to sites who have not published accurate contact information >through whois. If a ccTLD were to, for instance, refuse to publish any >contact information (even if the registrant *wanted* it published) this >makes his life difficult. > >I'd hope that European privacy laws would be flexible enough to allow >for voluntary publication of contact information by TLD operators. Dear Bill, voluntary publication of information has an extremely flexible and powerfull tool at its disposition. It is named the web. As a ccTLD Registry we do _not_ publish any information. For three reasons: - this is the best way to be sure we respect privacy laws everywhere. - we do not have the budget. - we do not see the need. Should a registrant want to publish his data, we are not opposed if he pays the cost. Such a whois service's cost would not be to deliver one registrant's data, but to receive requests for all the non documented registrants and the DoS. jfc _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf