Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:52:17 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04F832009B for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:52:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14690-06 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:52:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BAB0320098 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:52:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E5NNc-0005YY-OL; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:50:52 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E5NNY-0005WP-Dt for ltru@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:50:50 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA27755 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:50:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from montage.altserver.com ([63.247.74.122]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E5Nx5-0006i8-Gi for ltru@ietf.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:27:31 -0400 Received: from ver78-2-82-241-91-24.fbx.proxad.net ([82.241.91.24] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1E5NNR-0000Y0-NR; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 05:50:42 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050817130022.045a73c0@mail.afrac.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:24:36 +0200 To: Martin Duerst , ltru@ietf.org From: r&d afrac Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: WGLC security considerations (mostly off topic) In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.20.2.20050817112633.07d7bd80@itmail.it.aoyama.ac.jp> References: <6.2.1.2.2.20050817004329.0560c460@mail.afrac.org> <6.0.0.20.2.20050817112633.07d7bd80@itmail.it.aoyama.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - afrac.org X-Scan-Signature: 69a74e02bbee44ab4f8eafdbcedd94a1 Cc: X-BeenThere: ltru@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Language Tag Registry Update working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at alvestrand.no Dear Martin, I am sorry but your considerations are actually mostly off topic of the current debate reality (except when you acknowledge people will die because of the Draft you do not want to warn through the Security Section). So I will not comment them (unless it means that you consider that the Draft drops its claim to become BCP 47?). I address that point in another mail. Now, I suggest you are assigned the job of Sheperding Chair. It would lead you to read the information we provided and you seem to have not read however a co-Chair...[but you had mail problems]. I am not sure that your mail enters into the normal conflict reduction effort a Chair must attempt - I am still waiting for your response to the questions you engaged. At 04:49 17/08/2005, Martin Duerst wrote: >I very much hope it consists of more than just a few buzzwords and some "I >want my tags the way I want them" implementation just for implementation's >sake. However, I am glad to find here a good definition of our positions. You (the WGAG [affinity group]) says: long out-of-scope text and "I want the Internet language tags the way I want them". My position is: let provide a simple, clear, scalable framework and "I want the users tags the way the users want them". Since Addison chose this to be a competition instead of an IETF consensus, let the users decide what is the best proposition. All the best. jfc _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru