Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:16:53 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F74361B43 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:16:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18667-01 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:16:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E6461AF5 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:16:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DyFgI-0006FC-4D; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:12:42 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DyFgC-0006F4-54 for ietf@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:12:38 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA29267 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from montage.altserver.com ([63.247.74.122]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DyGBi-00022Z-Hv for ietf@ietf.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:45:11 -0400 Received: from i03m-212-195-148-209.d4.club-internet.fr ([212.195.148.209] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DyFg4-00016Z-O9; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:12:29 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050728224203.04375620@mail.jefsey.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:12:00 +0200 To: Brian E Carpenter From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" In-Reply-To: <42E8D8E2.2080407@zurich.ibm.com> References: <42E8D8E2.2080407@zurich.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: ea4ac80f790299f943f0a53be7e1a21a Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Motivation for draft-klensin-nomcom-term-00.txt and draft-klensin-stds-review-panel-00.txt X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF-Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: ietf-bounces@ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no On 15:08 28/07/2005, Brian E Carpenter said: >Further along the line of coherent changes, I don't want to see >our process documents becoming even more of a patchwork than >they already are. So a goal needs to be: instead of ending up >with yet more patches to RFC 2026 and patches to RFC 3777, >let's design a document roadmap that leads to a simple and >coherent set of process documents. There is an urgent need to get and get maintained "Internet Book" presenting the current status of the IETF and of the technology. The 4200 RFCs patchwork is unreadable and unmanageable. There must be a beginning to such a book. Starting with a description of IAB and IESG organisation and rules could be the best root of such an Internet Book Table of Content. Instead of writing a roadmap to write more documents, we could have the same documentation as a current status of the art + most expressed needs list, updated further on by the RFC evolution. Eventually the Internet Book would be the de facto reference, the RFCs the way to update it. Please indicate if that approach could be acceptable to IETF before I continue the engaged effort to make it produced and subsidized outside of the IETF, due to the lack of interest this proposition (I wish to be completed by press exposure and testing recogntion) met so far within the IETF. jfc _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf