Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:51:14 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F70661B65 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:51:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05287-06 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:51:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1C561B64 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:51:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DmKIc-00088A-78; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:42:58 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DmKIY-00087k-8Z for ietf@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:42:54 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA18456 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:42:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from montage.altserver.com ([63.247.74.122]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DmKhN-00048x-4i for ietf@ietf.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:08:34 -0400 Received: from ver78-2-82-241-91-24.fbx.proxad.net ([82.241.91.24] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DmKIN-0000lv-64; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:42:43 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050626010653.04aa86f0@mail.jefsey.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:42:36 +0200 To: Brian E Carpenter , ietf@ietf.org From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" In-Reply-To: <42BDCF67.9040703@zurich.ibm.com> References: <42BC8131.7090400@gainesgroup.com> <42BDCF67.9040703@zurich.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: 856eb5f76e7a34990d1d457d8e8e5b7f Cc: "Liqiang(Larry) Zhu" Subject: Re: Act now: Re: IETF 63, visa information X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF-Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: ietf-bounces@ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 23:40 25/06/2005, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >I strongly advise against waiting for a hypothetical >waiver. If the above site says you need a visa, I advise >applying for it immediately. French bureaucrats are not >known for flexibility. If flexibility means to non equally treat someone they will probably be very unflexible. We are quite democratic and found of individual rights (this is why I am genuinely shocked by the HB issue). But the flexibility is built in: be carefull at indicating "business trip". Which means that you come and visit. Not "scientific", "engineer", etc. which would be understood as coming and working. All the best. They say that July will be hoter than avergare, but August should be little fresher than average. jfc _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf