Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:20:30 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946B361B48 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:20:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02473-06 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:20:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id D594161AFB for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:20:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dw6io-0005Il-2h; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:14:26 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dw6ik-0005Ig-Mn for ietf@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:14:22 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA10246 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from montage.altserver.com ([63.247.74.122]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dw7D4-0005Te-DS for ietf@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:45:43 -0400 Received: from i03m-212-195-148-209.d4.club-internet.fr ([212.195.148.209] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1Dw6iY-0000Ll-RQ; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:14:11 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050723001644.04ac0c70@mail.jefsey.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:13:49 +0200 To: Brian E Carpenter , Stephane Bortzmeyer From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" In-Reply-To: <42E15D0C.5090103@zurich.ibm.com> References: <20050722114950.GA24287@nic.fr> <20050722141658.GA4984@nic.fr> <42E15D0C.5090103@zurich.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: 2409bba43e9c8d580670fda8b695204a Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Multiple roots & E2E PKI trust discovery, chain management & capabilities exchange X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF-Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: ietf-bounces@ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 22:54 22/07/2005, Brian E Carpenter wrote: I wouldn't change a word in RFC 2826. The problem with RFC 2826 is that it links (for information) a unique domain name resolution (what we want) with a unique authoritative root file (we do not care it is "unique", we want the one we use to be pertinent). Confusing the description with the described space was a way to protect the name space, but it unfortunately lead to open roots confusion and to alt-root suspicion (I only know one: ICANN with .biz) and to the lack of preparation in front to PAD (private roots). Now, I agree with Stephane and ICANN that a lot is/can to be done. We just have to remember IMHO the namespace is the same as geographical space: the map does not build the geography and no one thinks that geography depends on the map he uses. Except may be politics. But there may and is to be a lot of innovative thinking. ICP-3 is excellent, starting with a good review of RFC 2826, rooting into RFC 920 which is the true basis of the DNS as we live it, and calling on experimentation and proposing avenues for the research and development with classes (the way to the externets). jfc _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf